327 in 1949 Plymouth

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327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby dhill_1949-4DR » Tue Aug 17th, 2004 8:33

Im going to be putting a 327 in my 1949 4-door special deluxe. Does anyone have any suggestions. I have the Plydo catalogue Im just curious if there is anything I need to look out for.
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby HotRoDinGal » Tue Aug 24th, 2004 2:17

WOW! 327 is a big up-grade, but i'm all props for that! Ya might want to make sure it is compatible with most aspects of the drive train and other parts or you might find it more work than expected. But hey, i'm all about the v-8, good luck!
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby dhill_1949-4DR » Thu Feb 17th, 2005 10:42

Yeah, I figured that. I knew it wasn't going to be easy but is there anything out there that is? I think the guys at PlyDo are going to get my first born child. ;D
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby Johnny_S » Fri Feb 18th, 2005 7:49

You might be better off trying to put a 360 in rather than a 327.
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby Excoachbauer » Fri Feb 18th, 2005 8:17

I'm with Johnny S., Mopars belong in Mopars
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby dhill_1949-4DR » Mon Feb 21st, 2005 7:53

You guys should go to the opion chat line. I thought this was a getting help on items. You know what they say about opinions.
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby Excoachbauer » Mon Feb 21st, 2005 8:54

Okay, if you want to rod it, then here it goes. I would not limit myself to PlyDo even though he has some good stuff. The first thing I would do is get myself a Rod Custom Magazine or a Street Rodder Magazine and start looking at what is available (the ads, not necessarily the articles). I prefer R&C because they are a little more hands on while Street Rodder tends to be more buy it and bolt it. While most of the stuff is for Ch*vys and F#rds alot of the technology will cross over since you are seriously modifing anyway. I am looking at a Fat Man Fab (www.fatmanfab.com) ad in R&C right now. He has mustang II frame stubs for your 49 starting at 750 bucks. To do it right (safely) the stuff isn't going to be cheap but as they say "speed is money, how fast do you want to go?" I would not trust the stock suspension, king pins, or drum brakes with a V-8. Depending on your fabrication skill level you could go out and get a front clip from a Volare/Aspen and you would have everything you would need, power steering, front disc brakes, adjustable torsion bar suspension, tilt column and V-8 motor mounts but you would need to modify those mounts to put your ch*vy motor in. The nice part about that would be that you could get parts at any parts store for your Volare/Aspen front end. You could do the same with a Nova front end but you wouldn't have the adjustability with front coil springs that you do with torsion bars. That is just the front end. Now start thinking about the tranny, linkage, crossmember, driveshaft and rear end. The stock rear end is pretty stout but the shaft joints would be a pain so look to swap in something more modern. A F#rd 9in would be great and if you can find one out of the correct year Lincoln, it came with factory disc brakes. Yet again, parts available anywhere. Remember to look at the whole package not just one aspect. There you go.
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby Excoachbauer » Mon Feb 21st, 2005 8:54

If you want some pics of a nicely done rod, there is a 49 first series for sale on ebay right now. Have you considered a small block f#rd for your swap? Since you aren't limiting yourself to a MoPar engine the ford has alot of things going for it: distributor in front, narrowest of all the V-8s, and starter on the passenger side so it won't interfere with the steering box. There is also plenty of hop us stuff for it and shiney stuff as well. Just another option. As for the opinion, if you are going to be different and drive a MoPar then drive a MoPar, don't be like everybody else and just put a ch*vy in it. What ever you do best of luck. Ý;D
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby dhill_1949-4DR » Mon Feb 21st, 2005 10:34

Thanks for the help. The reason that I am asking about the 327 is that I have one in my garage ready to be mounted in my car. Do you have any other good sources for plymouth parts? From what I can tell PlyDo is the only source for any replacement parts.
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Re: 327 in 1949 Plymouth

Postby Excoachbauer » Mon Feb 21st, 2005 11:16

It depends on what you are looking to replace. Have you joined the Plymouth owners club? I just did and they have a nice newsletter. More like a small magazine really. Lots of ads as well as articles. Mostly stock stuff though. Check the links page here also.
If your gauges still work then you can step down the voltage from your 12 volt engine system to 6 volts and keep them. Or since the dash is pretty flat, you could make up your own gauge panel. Rod&Custom did an article on rewiring your hot rod awhile back. I believe the article is available on their web site. Summitt and Jegs both have different gauge packages.
Just a few more thoughts.

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How goes the swap?

Postby Excoachbauer » Thu Mar 31st, 2005 7:37

So, how is it going with the swap?

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Small Block Chevy in Mopar

Postby Johnny_S » Fri Apr 1st, 2005 12:30

I concur with the information that Dan provided. I think the small block chevy will work well in the car and his suggestions are good ones. Fatman has front end stubs that can be installed. MP Brakes has master cylinders and disc brake kits. You could check with Charlie Akers on the 49-50Plymouth Yahoo group discussion forum...Charlie makes one of the least expensive disc brake swap kits. On the P15-D24 Technical page you will find information about rearends that fit well. On the "Old Plymouth" website there is a sweet Club Coupe that has a 350 small block installed.....I think they call it "Grumpy"....you might contact them on what all they did to get it up and running.
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Postby joker51 » Mon Apr 10th, 2006 8:53

Problem with putting in a V8 is the steering. I mocked up a 318 in mine and found the steering was in the way. Very little room even with u joints in the shaft to move it some. Any twisting of the motor would have hit the shaft. You can always redesign the shaft to make it work, But I found out that since I don't want to go through all that work a slant 6 225 would fit nicely for me. Good luck on the conversion,
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SBC in a 49

Postby plym49 » Fri Sep 26th, 2008 6:10

See my posting here on the same topic:

viewtopic.php?t=675

The 327 will slip right in, and if you use a 55-57 Chevy drivers side exhaust manifold it clears the steering box.
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